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		<title>Comment on Shared Stories: Living out God&#8217;s Dream for Me by Grace May</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace May]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s phenomenal hearing your story and in your voice!  Praise God for the road he&#039;s led you down and for answering the Lord&#039;s call into pastoral ministry.  May you serve the Lord with all the zeal he&#039;s given you and discover that there are many other sisters who are following your lead!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s phenomenal hearing your story and in your voice!  Praise God for the road he&#8217;s led you down and for answering the Lord&#8217;s call into pastoral ministry.  May you serve the Lord with all the zeal he&#8217;s given you and discover that there are many other sisters who are following your lead!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is AAWOL? by Shameless self-promotion &#124; D-tales</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 16:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it is with a strange and wonderful sense of awe that I can be composing this post for AAWOL. I am now a newly-installed pastor of a local community church. I haven’t been alone for I have [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it is with a strange and wonderful sense of awe that I can be composing this post for AAWOL. I am now a newly-installed pastor of a local community church. I haven’t been alone for I have [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is AAWOL? by Shared Stories: Living out God&#8217;s Dream for Me &#171;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mother&#8217;s Day Tribute: The Right to Be Ugly by Joy</title>
		<link>http://aawolsisters.com/2012/05/13/the-right-to-be-ugly/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 15:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment, Debbie!  I guess if everyone looked more similar in appearance, meaning that Asians were the dominant culture, then perhaps it&#039;d be easier to &quot;be ugly&quot; since we&#039;d only have triple-consciousness: seeing ourselves in the eyes of ourselves, our parents, and our church (rather than quadruple-consciousness, which includes seeing ourselves in the eyes of the dominant culture).  But still, I think it might be hard to get over the other aspects of self-consciousness...  what do you think?

What&#039;s interesting to me is that you were able to &quot;be ugly&quot; in filing that grievance, partly because you saw the justice in it -- that you were not only doing it for yourself, but you were doing it for others.  It reminds me of Chloe&#039;s chapter in Mirrored Reflections about Bathsheba who goes from silence to voice when it comes to speaking up on behalf of her son.  Perhaps ultimately our courage to &quot;be ugly&quot; will come when we see it as necessary on behalf of others -- in essence, using our selflessness to our advantage (or as the Strengths Finder would say it, &quot;Using our strengths to overwhelm our weaknesses.&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Debbie!  I guess if everyone looked more similar in appearance, meaning that Asians were the dominant culture, then perhaps it&#8217;d be easier to &#8220;be ugly&#8221; since we&#8217;d only have triple-consciousness: seeing ourselves in the eyes of ourselves, our parents, and our church (rather than quadruple-consciousness, which includes seeing ourselves in the eyes of the dominant culture).  But still, I think it might be hard to get over the other aspects of self-consciousness&#8230;  what do you think?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting to me is that you were able to &#8220;be ugly&#8221; in filing that grievance, partly because you saw the justice in it &#8212; that you were not only doing it for yourself, but you were doing it for others.  It reminds me of Chloe&#8217;s chapter in Mirrored Reflections about Bathsheba who goes from silence to voice when it comes to speaking up on behalf of her son.  Perhaps ultimately our courage to &#8220;be ugly&#8221; will come when we see it as necessary on behalf of others &#8212; in essence, using our selflessness to our advantage (or as the Strengths Finder would say it, &#8220;Using our strengths to overwhelm our weaknesses.&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mother&#8217;s Day Tribute: The Right to Be Ugly by Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 06:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this mother-honoring reflection, Joy!  I LOVE the way she framed it:  the right to be ugly.  As one who has tended toward that &quot;knowing&quot; (or &quot;noonchi&quot;, as Koreans call it) when I enter a room for most my life (totally understand what you mean, Liz!)...and more recently come to accept that &quot;knowing&quot; as an asset...I did have to act in &quot;ugliness&quot; a couple years back, to the point of filing a grievance that became somewhat public.  My main motivation for doing it, however, was justice:  I didn&#039;t want this person to ever take advantage of another Asian American woman again!

Your reflections also make me wonder whether it&#039;s easier to consider the right to be ugly when we&#039;re in a context where we&#039;re more similar (in appearance) than different from most of the people in that context....just some thoughts.  Thank you for this great reflection!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this mother-honoring reflection, Joy!  I LOVE the way she framed it:  the right to be ugly.  As one who has tended toward that &#8220;knowing&#8221; (or &#8220;noonchi&#8221;, as Koreans call it) when I enter a room for most my life (totally understand what you mean, Liz!)&#8230;and more recently come to accept that &#8220;knowing&#8221; as an asset&#8230;I did have to act in &#8220;ugliness&#8221; a couple years back, to the point of filing a grievance that became somewhat public.  My main motivation for doing it, however, was justice:  I didn&#8217;t want this person to ever take advantage of another Asian American woman again!</p>
<p>Your reflections also make me wonder whether it&#8217;s easier to consider the right to be ugly when we&#8217;re in a context where we&#8217;re more similar (in appearance) than different from most of the people in that context&#8230;.just some thoughts.  Thank you for this great reflection!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mother&#8217;s Day Tribute: The Right to Be Ugly by Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Liz!  I&#039;m glad that you can relate to what I wrote:)

I definitely feel like our ability to conform can be an asset, as it has worked for me for most of my life.  However, as you intimated, if our only option is to conform and we don&#039;t know any other option, then it can work against us (as it has for me on certain occasions as well) -- mostly when my actions and words don&#039;t reflect -- in any way, shape, or form -- what&#039;s really going on inside me, in terms of feelings, thoughts, or convictions.  That incongruence between inside and outside usually causes inner turmoil for me.  

I really like your suggestion of &quot;tactfully ruffling feathers.&quot;  I&#039;m beginning to wonder if that can be done just by speaking up regularly -- not with vehemence or anger, but simply to have our voice heard and to offer a differing opinion/perspective in a tone that reflects respect for others, benefit of the doubt in their intentions, and a graciousness that reveals humility and patience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Liz!  I&#8217;m glad that you can relate to what I wrote:)</p>
<p>I definitely feel like our ability to conform can be an asset, as it has worked for me for most of my life.  However, as you intimated, if our only option is to conform and we don&#8217;t know any other option, then it can work against us (as it has for me on certain occasions as well) &#8212; mostly when my actions and words don&#8217;t reflect &#8212; in any way, shape, or form &#8212; what&#8217;s really going on inside me, in terms of feelings, thoughts, or convictions.  That incongruence between inside and outside usually causes inner turmoil for me.  </p>
<p>I really like your suggestion of &#8220;tactfully ruffling feathers.&#8221;  I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if that can be done just by speaking up regularly &#8212; not with vehemence or anger, but simply to have our voice heard and to offer a differing opinion/perspective in a tone that reflects respect for others, benefit of the doubt in their intentions, and a graciousness that reveals humility and patience.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mother&#8217;s Day Tribute: The Right to Be Ugly by Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joy, thank you for such an insightful reflection. I found the concepts of triple- and quadruple-consciousness to be particularly useful for me to keep in mind as I become more self-aware through my current studies in Marital and Family Therapy. The tension we live in as we hold these dimensions of consciousness requires a great deal of patience and creativity, and with that, I am reminded of our need to grow in courage and boldness as we live out the ways God has created us to be in the image of God. 

Also, the sentence: &quot;Furthermore, I’ve often heard it said that Asian American women naturally develop the skill of being able to walk into a room and to immediately know and conform to exactly what is expected of them based on who is in the room&quot; --this is so true of me! 

I agree with the importance of owning &quot;our right to be ugly&quot; to change things up -- after all, if we know our roles to conform, then we probably have an idea of what it looks like to do the opposite to shake things up a bit. Even so, I think this ability to conform is a unique skill that can be used for us to tactfully ruffle feathers... I wonder if it is possible/what it looks like for us to use this skill to promote harmonious change in contexts of inequality.

- Liz Chang]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joy, thank you for such an insightful reflection. I found the concepts of triple- and quadruple-consciousness to be particularly useful for me to keep in mind as I become more self-aware through my current studies in Marital and Family Therapy. The tension we live in as we hold these dimensions of consciousness requires a great deal of patience and creativity, and with that, I am reminded of our need to grow in courage and boldness as we live out the ways God has created us to be in the image of God. </p>
<p>Also, the sentence: &#8220;Furthermore, I’ve often heard it said that Asian American women naturally develop the skill of being able to walk into a room and to immediately know and conform to exactly what is expected of them based on who is in the room&#8221; &#8211;this is so true of me! </p>
<p>I agree with the importance of owning &#8220;our right to be ugly&#8221; to change things up &#8212; after all, if we know our roles to conform, then we probably have an idea of what it looks like to do the opposite to shake things up a bit. Even so, I think this ability to conform is a unique skill that can be used for us to tactfully ruffle feathers&#8230; I wonder if it is possible/what it looks like for us to use this skill to promote harmonious change in contexts of inequality.</p>
<p>- Liz Chang</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Surprising Confucian Tribute to Friendship by Dabney</title>
		<link>http://aawolsisters.com/2012/04/24/a-surprising-confucian-tribute-to-friendship/#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dabney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 22:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE THIS &#8211; LOVE YOU!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Surprising Confucian Tribute to Friendship by Tina Teng-Henson</title>
		<link>http://aawolsisters.com/2012/04/24/a-surprising-confucian-tribute-to-friendship/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Teng-Henson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank YOU, Debbie! I&#039;d be curious to hear from you and others about whether this post prompts any discovery of a similar dynamic in your lives! Glad to know this was thought-provoking. I look forward to future dialogue + discovery!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank YOU, Debbie! I&#8217;d be curious to hear from you and others about whether this post prompts any discovery of a similar dynamic in your lives! Glad to know this was thought-provoking. I look forward to future dialogue + discovery!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Surprising Confucian Tribute to Friendship by Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tina, thank you for your reflections!  I enjoyed reading your post not only because of its readability but also for its challenge to reimagine the connection between Church, Christian life, and Confucian values.  In my own journey to reclaiming my ethnic identity, I have found comfort in being able to name some of my norms as not odd but as having a LONG history (i.e., Confucian-based values), though of course, the last Asian American Equipping symposium offered welcome correctives to a blanket acceptance of all things Confucius.

Your post is giving me reason to pause.  What a concept!  Bringing the friendship relationship INTO the other four in order to reframe those relationships and, in some cases, bring healing.  Of course, a more egalitarian way of being goes against the core of Confucian assumptions (according to my limited but growing understanding of Confucian belief), but I&#039;m now at least open to considering a neo-neo Confucian system??!  Your examples are compelling.  They describe a context that is more &quot;3rd space&quot; or &quot;liminal,&quot; I think.  Both/and.  Hard to do, but worth exploring.

Thanks for your thoughts!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina, thank you for your reflections!  I enjoyed reading your post not only because of its readability but also for its challenge to reimagine the connection between Church, Christian life, and Confucian values.  In my own journey to reclaiming my ethnic identity, I have found comfort in being able to name some of my norms as not odd but as having a LONG history (i.e., Confucian-based values), though of course, the last Asian American Equipping symposium offered welcome correctives to a blanket acceptance of all things Confucius.</p>
<p>Your post is giving me reason to pause.  What a concept!  Bringing the friendship relationship INTO the other four in order to reframe those relationships and, in some cases, bring healing.  Of course, a more egalitarian way of being goes against the core of Confucian assumptions (according to my limited but growing understanding of Confucian belief), but I&#8217;m now at least open to considering a neo-neo Confucian system??!  Your examples are compelling.  They describe a context that is more &#8220;3rd space&#8221; or &#8220;liminal,&#8221; I think.  Both/and.  Hard to do, but worth exploring.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts!</p>
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